Re: So long, CC: thanks for the years

On Jul 7, 7:35 pm, barry <toisan_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 18:01:20 -0400, "Steve-O" <steveone...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >"barry" <toisan_...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> i have problems with a player using the phrase "financial security"
to
> >> justify wanting a 5+ year contract when he's offered $18 mil for four
> >> years. i suppose he'll get more elsewhere, but with the contract the
> >> indians offered, even after taxes CC will have a family budget of
over
> >> $80k a MONTH for the REST OF HIS LIFE - even if he never plays again
> >> after 2013 if he just takes his money and puts in the bank at 2.5%
> >> interest. the average fan  may not take home 80k in 2 years.
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> >Barry -
> >I wonder how much leeway players really have with accepting offers.
> >What's the chance that the Union has a great big say on what a player
> >accepts or rejects. My guess is a whole lot.
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> >These kids have to be overwhelmed with the publicity, and being
> >pulled back and forth by team loyalty, agents, and the union.
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> >And, yes....23 to 28 year olds IMHO are still kids, especially
> >when dealing with amounts of money that'd get the attention
> >of medium sized countries.
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> i would say more pressure from their agents - who make a percentage of
> what their clients earn.  but it's still a legitimate point. so why
> didn't a re****ter phrase the question that way:
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> hey cc, let's do the math: 72 million, minus 10% to your agent is 65
> mil. 50% to uncle sam leaves 32 mil and change. let's say you spend a
> million a year. so in 2014, you still have $28 million in the bank -
> plus whatever you've saved up, plus whatever you've earned in interest
> during that time. so at a  VERY conservative estimate of 4% interest,
> you'll get a million bucks a year JUST IN INTEREST - or about $80k a
> month - wiithout ever touching your savings. can you help the fans
> understand just exactly
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> WHAT KIND OF F--KING FINANCIAL SECURITY DO YOU WANT? ARE YOU WORRIED
> ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO AFFORD EXTRA CHEESE ON YOUR WHOPPERS OR WHAT?
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> ok rant over. what's done is done.
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> la****ta is the brewers' version of sean casey - 24 year old 2008 all
> star ryan braun currently occupies LF while 24 year old prince fielder
> (50 HR 119 RBIs in 2007) currently occupies 1B. that's probably the
> only reason la****ta was playing RF for the brewers. his best fit will
> probably be either 1B or LF given his defensive deficiencies. or if
> hafner somehow never recovers, new DH.
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> the player TBD could be very significant - that's how we got coco
> crisp when we dumped chuck finley - and you can be sure tribe mgmt
> will be scouting these players for the rest of the season. i was
> surprised to see in the milwaukee sentinel a comment that prospect
> green currently playing 3B would be be a candidate to swap to 2B. WHY?
> between cabrera & barfield we should have at least one viable 2B. but
> by the end of the season, we'll know, so get something for blake and
> play marte for the rest of the year. if he proves himself, great, if
> not, take green. but brantley & cain are intriguing prospects too.
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> bryson - best case scenario - 2010 closer, given his K/innings ratio.
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> jackson - eh, but we needed to get a starter back for depth,
> acquisition of jeff weaver off waivers not withstanding.
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> could be good/good good/bad bad/good or bad/bad trade but only time
> will tell. the bullpen wasn't going to improve anytime soon, so CC
> gives the brewers 14-15 starts barring injury and we get more than two
> compensation picks in the upcoming draft plus the years in
> development.
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> we should hire somebody from milwaikee to evaluate the draft for us -
> braun and fielder are top 10 picks. but the coaching might have
> something to do with it
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> jason michaels has dropped to about .260 but he still hit .300 for a
> month after leaving cleveland. that suggests to me that *something* in
> the environment in cleveland needs to be addressed.
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> is alvaro espinoza still playing? he was always reliable for sticking
> chewing gum in somebody's cap at least once a day. hyuk hyuk. but IMO
> the indians need *somebody* in the clubhouse that'll loosen things up.
> maybe one day wedge comes out wearing groucho marx gl*****  or with a
> long stream of toilet paper stuck to his cleats - or wearing scuba
> flippers - when he walks the lineup out to the umpire one day....
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And meant to comment on Green too - an offensive minded second baseman
who can field his position is something the Indians currently do not
have. Keep in mind he is in Single A and it will be a couple of years
before Green is even on the radar.

I've read that the PTBNL is down to Brantley or Green - that Cain
isn't even on the list.