On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:07:16 -0400, "Steve-O" <steveoneill@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Eric Gurney" <egurney@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>I still don't see why Dolan should deficit spend to get a chance at a
>>winner. If it were my money I certainly wouldn't.
>> I still maintain that the owners should have locked out during the last
>> labor dispute and put a hard cap in place, that's the only way small
>> market teams will have a chance over the long term.
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>Using that kind of thinking, my hobby - golf - would have to produce
>more in gambling and tournament winnings than I spend on balls,
>beer, fees, clubs, et c., and I can't write any of it off.
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>The Tribe should be a hobby for the multi millionaire owners.
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>Their investment is making tons of money simply by
>the appreciation of all MLB clubs.
>They refuse to invest in a commodity
>whose final value is predetermined at sale time.
>That's the problem with this guy as owner of the Tribe.
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>I see the logic in not re-signing CC.
>Possible injury, ineffective in the playoffs, E.G.
>Kinda like not buying an expensive new driver.
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>I don't see the logic in not trying to build a
>contender each and every year. Kinda like owning
>a nice set of clubs, and being too cheap to play.
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>As far as breaking the Player's Union, good luck.
>It's been tried before, and it didn't work.
>Nor will it work now. The owners will cave in.
>The law would probably back the union (collusion...).
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>As far as small market teams not having a chance:
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>#1, I do not see the Tribe as a small market team.
>They own the TV station STO, stadium naming rights,
>and Cleveland/Akron/Canton is not that small a population.
>There is potential for huge incomes.
you may love NE ohio, but let's face it, not that long ago they were
still a "rust belt" region with a decimated ecomony. in terms of size
and per capita/disposable income, cleveland is deemed something like
the 18th largest market.
my dad loves watching baseball, but since he's on a limted income, the
only game he's seen since the tribe went to cable was a game when i
was in town and i took him to see a game at jacobs field.
>#2, The small market Cardinals contend year in and year out.
>Same with the Braves and Twins.
IIRC the twins stank last year. and through the 90's they averaged 4th
for the decade - longer then the period of their relative success now.
st. louis nearest rival is 2 states away in cincinatti, maybe chicago
is closer, but to the south the closest team is in texas or atlanta.
in comparison, within same radius of cleveland, you have:
cincy
detoit
chicago
and within an extra 60 miles, NYC & philadelphia.
and the other half of that radius includes lake erie and CANADA - fish
and canadians have little interest in baseball.
it's just not the same.
>Management needs to be accountable, and being accountable
>is not whining about being a "Small" market team, and having
>your big offseason moves be Jamey Carroll and Kobayu****.
it's the petulant fans who come across as whiny - and i'm guessing
most of them are maxed out on their credit cards and as such have no
right to critique how anyone else manages their business and/or
finances.
>None of the blathering from management has mentioned their failures.
>Gutierrez, Peralta, Marte, 2nd Base, Garko, Betancourt,
>Perez, Delucci, Borowski, Sowers, et al.
>That's a lot of non-production, and being small market has nothing to do
>with it.
compared to milieti/bonda/o'neill years, the dolans come across like
daddy warbucks. the fans who've developed unrealistic expectations
from the jacobs era need to stop acting like having a winning team is
a right insead of a privilege.
>They see themselves as having performed swimmingly, as they continue
>to rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic, and whine about being small
market.
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