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Re: Cardiologist too conservative?

by Omelet <ompomelet@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 29, 2008 at 02:26 PM

In article <483ef63e$0$5169$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
 "Zen Cohen" <aturny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> I had to take a treadmill stress test yesterday because I had minor 
> right-side chest pain a couple weeks after a 40% spontaneous
pneumothorax in 
> my right lung. I suspect the test was overkill but I wasn't going to
defy my 
> doc's advice.
> 
> He said he'd calculate 220 minus my age (49) so limited the test to 171
bpm. 
> I told him that I sometimes approach 180 when exercising and that I'd
like 
> to see if there are any problems when my heart reaches that range. Also
said 
> I'd heard the 220-minus-age formula was arbitrary, He agreed but said it
was 
> a good rule of thumb and summarily dismissed my request by pronouncing I

> just shouldn't exercise above my 220-minus-age. I realize that there is
some 
> additional risk by exercising at higher heart rates but I'm willing to
take 
> some measure of risk because I like to push myself and better my 
> performance. Nonetheless he stopped me right at 171. I feel like the
doctor 
> didn't do me a service because he didn't provide a sufficient reason for

> this and it seems his refusing to let me go further may have left him in
the 
> dark about potential problems that could develop in these higher ranges
if I 
> don't follow his advice.
> 
> I get the impression this cardiologist knows plenty about counseling and

> treating sedentary or ill patients but has no interest in advising
fitter 
> patients who want to push their endurance without undue risk. Has anyone
had 
> experience with cardiologists who are more fitness-friendly? What have
they 
> said about the risks of exercising at or near max HR?
> 
> BTW, it took me 15:30 to reach my "max" HR. He said his patients
normally 
> don't last longer than 11 minutes but heard of some accomplished
athletes 
> going over 20 minutes. I might've gone another minute or so but nowhere
near 
> 20 (with the speed/incline increases every minute). If you've done this 
> test, how long did you go? 

Don't know yet. I've got one ordered but won't schedule it until this 
damned leg heals.

If he wants me to have a 170 to 180 BPM in no time flat, he oughta just 
let me do some heavy deadlifts. <g> It's faster.

To hell with the treadmill!
-- 
Peace! Om

"Human nature seems to be to control other people 
until they put their foot down." -- Stephan Rothstein
 




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Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 11:30:14 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-05-29 14:26:25 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:26:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-05-30 09:59:35 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-05-29 23:03:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-29 15:10:34 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 02:52:58 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"David" <for  2008-05-31 17:39:51 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 04:13:42 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 15:30:25 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 07:22:15 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-05-30 03:24:45 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:59:12 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 12:35:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 15:59:49 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 06:27:48 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 22:03:57 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 16:12:42 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-30 16:25:37 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 14:16:00 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-30 18:44:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 16:15:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-05-31 00:19:56 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 02:38:00 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 06:32:13 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 18:46:21 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 07:13:31 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Dancing Monkey"  2008-05-31 01:07:17 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:21:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:08:59 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:03:12 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 16:32:29 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Mu <mu@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-31 04:44:07 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-31 14:38:32 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-06-01 02:32:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <muness  2008-06-01 02:39:36 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <MUNESSITY@[EMAIL P  2008-06-01 03:11:15 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 16:13:51 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:15:04 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Dancing Monkey"  2008-05-31 12:27:22 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-01 05:45:17 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
SUT WHO LUVED LASAGNA <  2008-06-01 22:20:09 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-02 02:42:43 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-02 02:51:03 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
SUT WHO LUVES BOB'S LASAG  2008-06-03 00:54:34 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-03 10:12:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Lucas Buck <sbcpark@[E  2008-06-16 15:23:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-19 11:45:05 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <musserino@[EMAIL P  2008-06-01 22:31:37 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-02 02:43:22 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Thorsten Schier <usene  2008-05-31 02:18:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:22:04 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-30 23:16:43 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-31 02:57:18 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-31 02:55:19 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-05-31 15:49:41 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 07:19:26 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:11:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 16:33:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-29 17:36:09 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-30 00:10:10 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:32:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-31 13:11:47 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-31 03:03:15 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-05-29 16:42:11 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-05-30 10:31:17 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-05-30 12:14:31 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-30 23:41:07 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Steve Freides"  2008-05-29 22:15:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:24:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:27:58 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-30 23:13:14 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 22:00:55 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:19:53 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 11:29:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jim Janney <jjanney@[E  2008-05-30 09:35:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 11:01:40 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-30 23:38:00 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 11:08:01 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 15:58:21 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-30 16:24:24 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 12:33:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 13:54:59 
Re: Kiddie Cardiologist too conservative?
Mu <mu@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-31 04:23:16 
Is MU a dangerous pedo? What's his obsession with "KIDDIE"?
"Dancing Monkey"  2008-05-31 12:40:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-31 14:28:53 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <mu4you@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-01 03:17:02 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <MUeer@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-01 03:38:31 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-01 05:47:42 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
David Rollo <drollo@[E  2008-06-01 06:00:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-06-02 01:56:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-06-01 22:22:34 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-01 22:34:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-06-02 03:46:26 
Re: Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <muman@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-03 01:01:19 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 07:47:18 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-01 22:35:24 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 07:57:27 
Send MU to Barbados along with Chung
I M Portant <"&qu  2008-06-01 13:00:13 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-06-01 22:24:59 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-01 22:40:11 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 13:10:06 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 13:15:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-01 17:20:40 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
David Rollo <drollo@[E  2008-06-01 21:51:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-02 02:35:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-02 04:05:45 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
David Rollo <drollo@[E  2008-06-02 06:44:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-06-02 10:31:24 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-06-03 00:12:49 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-02 08:51:25 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <muistheposter@[EMA  2008-06-03 00:57:05 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-03 10:12:48 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-06-03 11:01:06 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-03 13:48:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-02 09:35:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-03 11:42:28 

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