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Re: Cardiologist too conservative?

by "Burr" <pitzradio@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 30, 2008 at 07:19 AM

"Zen Cohen" <aturny@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:483ef63e$0$5169$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>I had to take a treadmill stress test yesterday because I had minor 
>right-side chest pain a couple weeks after a 40% spontaneous pneumothorax

>in my right lung. I suspect the test was overkill but I wasn't going to 
>defy my doc's advice.
>
> He said he'd calculate 220 minus my age (49) so limited the test to 171 
> bpm. I told him that I sometimes approach 180 when exercising and that
I'd 
> like to see if there are any problems when my heart reaches that range. 
> Also said I'd heard the 220-minus-age formula was arbitrary, He agreed
but 
> said it was a good rule of thumb and summarily dismissed my request by 
> pronouncing I just shouldn't exercise above my 220-minus-age. I realize 
> that there is some additional risk by exercising at higher heart rates
but 
> I'm willing to take some measure of risk because I like to push myself
and 
> better my performance. Nonetheless he stopped me right at 171. I feel
like 
> the doctor didn't do me a service because he didn't provide a sufficient

> reason for this and it seems his refusing to let me go further may have 
> left him in the dark about potential problems that could develop in
these 
> higher ranges if I don't follow his advice.
>
> I get the impression this cardiologist knows plenty about counseling and

> treating sedentary or ill patients but has no interest in advising
fitter 
> patients who want to push their endurance without undue risk. Has anyone

> had experience with cardiologists who are more fitness-friendly? What
have 
> they said about the risks of exercising at or near max HR?
>
> BTW, it took me 15:30 to reach my "max" HR. He said his patients
normally 
> don't last longer than 11 minutes but heard of some accomplished
athletes 
> going over 20 minutes. I might've gone another minute or so but nowhere 
> near 20 (with the speed/incline increases every minute). If you've done 
> this test, how long did you go?
>

You sound like a "lawyers dream" (ya you) if you went down at over there
171 
then you could have sued!!

I know, not you "good lawyer" but some other "normal" lawyer.

Here things are so tight in LA you had your hand in your own pocket!

Burr
 




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Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 11:30:14 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-05-29 14:26:25 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:26:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-05-30 09:59:35 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-05-29 23:03:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
misanthropic_curmudgeon &  2008-05-29 15:10:34 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 02:52:58 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"David" <for  2008-05-31 17:39:51 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 04:13:42 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 15:30:25 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 07:22:15 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-05-30 03:24:45 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:59:12 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 12:35:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 15:59:49 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 06:27:48 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 22:03:57 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 16:12:42 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-30 16:25:37 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 14:16:00 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-30 18:44:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 16:15:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-05-31 00:19:56 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 02:38:00 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 06:32:13 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 18:46:21 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 07:13:31 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Dancing Monkey"  2008-05-31 01:07:17 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:21:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:08:59 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:03:12 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 16:32:29 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Mu <mu@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-31 04:44:07 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-31 14:38:32 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-06-01 02:32:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <muness  2008-06-01 02:39:36 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <MUNESSITY@[EMAIL P  2008-06-01 03:11:15 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 16:13:51 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:15:04 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Dancing Monkey"  2008-05-31 12:27:22 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-01 05:45:17 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
SUT WHO LUVED LASAGNA <  2008-06-01 22:20:09 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-02 02:42:43 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-02 02:51:03 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
SUT WHO LUVES BOB'S LASAG  2008-06-03 00:54:34 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-03 10:12:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Lucas Buck <sbcpark@[E  2008-06-16 15:23:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-19 11:45:05 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <musserino@[EMAIL P  2008-06-01 22:31:37 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-02 02:43:22 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Thorsten Schier <usene  2008-05-31 02:18:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:22:04 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-30 23:16:43 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-31 02:57:18 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-31 02:55:19 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-05-31 15:49:41 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 07:19:26 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-31 00:11:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-31 16:33:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-29 17:36:09 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-30 00:10:10 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:32:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-31 13:11:47 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-31 03:03:15 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-05-29 16:42:11 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-05-30 10:31:17 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-05-30 12:14:31 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-30 23:41:07 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Steve Freides"  2008-05-29 22:15:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:24:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-30 19:27:58 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"MU" <danmc5  2008-05-30 23:13:14 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-05-29 22:00:55 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-29 23:19:53 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Burr" <pitz  2008-05-30 11:29:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jim Janney <jjanney@[E  2008-05-30 09:35:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 11:01:40 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-05-30 23:38:00 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 11:08:01 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <moo@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-30 15:58:21 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Somewhat Useful Feedroos   2008-05-30 16:24:24 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 12:33:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-30 13:54:59 
Re: Kiddie Cardiologist too conservative?
Mu <mu@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-31 04:23:16 
Is MU a dangerous pedo? What's his obsession with "KIDDIE"?
"Dancing Monkey"  2008-05-31 12:40:27 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Jason Earl <jearl@[EMA  2008-05-31 14:28:53 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <mu4you@[EMAIL PROT  2008-06-01 03:17:02 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <MUeer@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-01 03:38:31 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-01 05:47:42 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
David Rollo <drollo@[E  2008-06-01 06:00:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-06-02 01:56:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-06-01 22:22:34 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-01 22:34:39 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-06-02 03:46:26 
Re: Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <muman@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-06-03 01:01:19 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 07:47:18 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-01 22:35:24 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 07:57:27 
Send MU to Barbados along with Chung
I M Portant <"&qu  2008-06-01 13:00:13 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Very Useful AssKick  2008-06-01 22:24:59 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-01 22:40:11 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 13:10:06 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-01 13:15:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-01 17:20:40 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
David Rollo <drollo@[E  2008-06-01 21:51:54 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
MU <danmc51@[EMAIL PRO  2008-06-02 02:35:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-02 04:05:45 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
David Rollo <drollo@[E  2008-06-02 06:44:20 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-06-02 10:31:24 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
Andrzej Rosa <bakters@  2008-06-03 00:12:49 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Truth <yamantaka@[EMAI  2008-06-02 08:51:25 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
MU <muistheposter@[EMA  2008-06-03 00:57:05 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-03 10:12:48 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Zen Cohen" <  2008-06-03 11:01:06 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
Omelet <ompomelet@[EMA  2008-06-03 13:48:28 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative? Zen Scared Crapless?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-02 09:35:50 
Re: Cardiologist too conservative?
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-06-03 11:42:28 

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