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Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure

by "DrollTroll" <fitcat@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 18, 2008 at 02:06 AM

"joeu2004" <joeu2004@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:e6a0b142-f474-474d-b22b-848ec3bc6d08@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jul 17, 11:16 am, "DrollTroll" <fit...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> During the exercise:
> Weight lifting *radically* increases bp [...].
> And even aerobic workouts raise bp during the exercise.

I stand corrected.  Thanks.  I am certain that I read over the years
that BP drops during (aerobic) exercise, resulting in light-headedness
in extreme cases.  But a google search just now produced some credible
explanations to the contrary that make a lot of sense.
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You really didn't need no (stinkin) studies.  It's simple fluid 
mechanics/hydraulics.
If your heart is pumping at 2-3 times its resting rate AND at a higher 
stroke volume, the pressure MUST go up. As in any pump, any garden hose.

The *real* Q is, Why doesn't bp rise higher than it does, during aerobic 
effort?

The answer is two-fold:
vascular dilation, all over the place, AND in fact NEWly opened capillary 
pathways that were previously closed.
And probably some reduced blood viscosity, as well-- unless you've got 
sickle cell.

And, btw, the bp rise in heavy lifting is so precipitous that there is
real 
medical concern for older people unwisely feeling their Cheerios with
heavy 
weights, ESP with a history of fragile vasculature, etc.

Ditto the ICP from passive inversion.  The teeter-totter people vehemently

dispute this, but that's because, despite a legitimate product, they still

feel the need to twist logic and science to their advantage.

Blood pressure is an artfully subtle parameter.

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> This "***ulative effect" business is dicey.
> Short ***ulative stuff absolutely *does not* lead to the "aerobic
training
> effect", which is the synthesis of additional oxidative enzyme pathways.

I agree wholeheartedly (no pun intended).  I suspect that some of the
conclusions of recent studies are simply motivated by trying to get
sedentary people to do __any__ kind of phyiscal movement.  "Tell
people that they can get some benefits by doing almost nothing many
times a day, and eventually they will get healthy and motivated enough
to do the right thing".  At least, that's what I suspect is behind
their thinking.
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Indeed, you'd think Big Media would have at least one altruistic ethical 
bone in their greedy li'l bodies, but more likely it's just pandering to
the 
new "fitness PC-ness".

 AND always keeping the consumer off balance with some new tidbit, so the 
consumer never knows up from down.

And of course always on the sell.  They've got column inches to fill, and 
column-inches of ad space to sell, and they're not really particular about

either.

But, having said all that, there is no doubt in my mind that there are 
likely a variety of beneficial effects from the ***ulative effect theory, 
but these effects are most certainly also pro****tional to intensity.

Altho, having just said that, it is really amazing the benefits yielded by

really middling efforts, such as in the "Conductor Study", where train 
conductor's had demonstrably improved markers for health than the much
more 
sedentary train engineer.
-- 
DT
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
aerobic exercise and blood pressure
val189 <gwehrenb@[EMAI  2008-07-08 12:48:09 
Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure
joeu2004 <joeu2004@[EM  2008-07-10 00:02:25 
Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure
"DrollTroll" &l  2008-07-17 14:16:11 
Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure
joeu2004 <joeu2004@[EM  2008-07-17 16:56:47 
Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure
"DrollTroll" &l  2008-07-18 02:06:13 
Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure
val189 <gwehrenb@[EMAI  2008-07-19 10:55:27 
Re: aerobic exercise and blood pressure
"DrollTroll" &l  2008-07-19 16:06:03 

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