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Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The Only Review of Mike's really old Literature

by Mike Vandeman <mjvande@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 11, 2008 at 08:51 PM

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:19:16 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:r7ru94pjgdvctag600bobk58k4sqp9o5p0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:40:28 -0700, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>Mike picks and chooses the literature that fits his selfish agenda and 
>>>posts
>>>it.
>>>
>>>The really sad thing is, most of his self selected literature is 
>>>inaccurate
>>>or does not apply to his agenda.
>>
>> The tipoff that you are lying is that you NEVER give any specifics to
>> back up your BS.
>
>I'm exhausted of citing specifics. You ignore them anyway.
>
>Here's a specific for you, if you were 100% correct AND 100% of every
route 
>was an environmental wasteland that demanded complete intervention and 
>restoration, we would have to step up to save 0.004% (rounded up) of the 
>environment that was laid to waste because of bicycle activity.

You STILL don't get it! The impact of the presence of humans is much
greater than would be expected from the area of the trail, since
animals can smell and hear people from over a mile away. You continue
to ignore that FACT pointed out by Ed Grumbine in _Ghost Bears_ (I
know, you haven't read that, either).

>When you find a cause that will save 4%, post a note. I might be able to 
>raise some funding to help.
-- 
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 




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The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The Onl
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-10 11:12:04 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-08-10 11:40:28 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-10 12:08:02 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-08-10 21:14:31 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-11 20:48:37 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-08-12 08:37:07 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-12 20:17:38 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-08-12 20:32:18 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-10 15:35:19 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-08-10 21:19:16 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-11 20:51:28 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-11 21:31:21 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-12 06:15:07 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-12 10:01:59 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-10 15:40:16 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-11 06:10:22 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-11 20:53:41 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-11 20:54:24 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-08-12 08:37:59 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-12 04:46:33 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-12 06:15:50 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-12 07:14:07 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-10 15:34:09 
Re: The Impacts of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- The
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-11 20:43:22 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-12 06:23:31 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-14 04:38:09 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-12 07:25:01 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
"Brian" <bri  2008-08-12 16:59:04 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-12 20:26:33 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-12 20:23:27 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-12 20:51:42 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-13 20:54:26 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-12 20:54:19 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Mike Vandeman <mjvande  2008-08-13 20:54:58 
Re: Econut's avoidance of the truth
Siskuwihane <Siskuwiha  2008-08-14 04:40:59 

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