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Re: Survival Menu

by "Jon" <jonmein@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 21, 2008 at 07:29 AM

"Eugene Miya" <eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:48ac540c$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> a balanced diet.
>
> In article <48ac1086$0$28874$88260bb3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> Jon <jonmein@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>I thought the survivalist answer for readily available, compact,
>>shelf-stable balanced diet was *dry cat food*.  %^P  But after
>>2000, what are they worried about, anyway, that's short term
>>enough to ride it out in their well-stocked and secured shelters?
>>But that's another misc.group topic...
>
> It's amusing that there's 3 different news groups ++ devoted to 
> survivalism.
> They are worried about economic collapse, nuclear war with Russia (as
> opposed to the Soviet Union), or war with China (PRC).  Or the Middle
> East (real problems).

For the retreatists, better move to the backcountry or rural settings
and learn susbsistance survival for long term.  Even then, so much
is uncontrollable...  Maybe New Zeeland...

> Or the more abstract end of the world (Gog-Magog)
> Biblical Revelation.

If the world's ending, the world's ending.  What's there to
survive?

> The survivalists who view their shelters like fall-out shelters of the
> 50s and 60s are a little misguided.  The long-term thinkers like the
> traditional LDS (maybe Christopher) with their year larder are probably
> doing OK because they rotate their food, etc.  They will be fine for
> earthquakes, storms, etc.

Yes, the sort of bunker survivalism  implied by this thread's discussion
of menus seems best suited for waiting out storms or natural disasters.
Days, weeks, or months, perhaps.  Nuitrition will matter into the
months, as will basic medical care.

They are caching food and supplies.  Are they caching information,
too?  Are they prepared to deal with loss of basic sup****t infrastruture?
For a short period, or prolonged?  Think of the disruption caused
by just the suspension of air travel in 2001.  Consider communication
and organizational difficulties in the wake of Katrina.

> This is all why Douglas Adams made his whole B-ark joke in the HHGG.
> I think the serious long term problems of the future will be evolved and
> adapted past problems and a few new problems.  To use Adams' analogy,
> it's neither A-ark, B-ark, or C-ark.  You didn't want to be on any of
> THOSE arks.

Well, the B-ark people survived to populate another planet. The
A/C-ark designees never launched, never planned to,-- it was just
a sham to get rid of the "non-contributors".  Instead the A's and C's
were wiped out by a disease trivially preventable by the B-arker's
they banished.

Jon
 




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Survival Menu
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-17 08:32:00 
Re: Survival Menu
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-08-17 08:53:18 
Re: Survival Menu
Galen Hekhuis <ghekhui  2008-08-17 12:23:38 
Re: Survival Menu
Mike Romain <romainm@[  2008-08-17 15:24:40 
Re: Survival Menu
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-08-17 13:09:57 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-18 09:54:30 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-19 08:35:00 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-19 17:24:32 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-20 08:09:32 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-20 10:27:40 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-21 07:29:49 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 11:42:49 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-22 07:32:39 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-22 10:23:56 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-26 07:58:49 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-26 16:28:33 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-27 07:20:29 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 16:33:14 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-28 14:42:40 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-28 17:32:04 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-29 06:55:38 
Re: Survival Menu
Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-08-30 21:41:41 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-03 14:06:51 
Re: Survival Menu
Puppet_Sock <puppet_so  2008-09-08 07:56:01 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-28 08:03:54 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-28 16:53:57 
Re: Survival Menu
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-25 10:47:03 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-25 10:58:31 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-27 09:06:28 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-27 12:05:01 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 16:53:39 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-27 21:26:08 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-28 16:46:55 
Re: Survival Menu
pmh <pmhilton@[EMAIL P  2008-08-22 19:38:37 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-25 11:08:02 
Re: Survival Menu
Puppet_Sock <puppet_so  2008-08-21 07:44:44 
Re: Survival Menu
Puppet_Sock <puppet_so  2008-08-19 07:58:18 
Re: Survival Menu
"runcyclexcski@[EMAI  2008-08-20 17:00:58 
Re: Survival Menu
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-08-21 02:58:00 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 14:28:43 
Re: Survival Menu
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-25 10:42:29 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-27 15:10:23 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 16:49:56 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-29 08:02:09 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-04 00:41:40 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 13:35:06 
Re: Survival Menu
Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-09-09 05:05:09 
Re: Survival Menu
mkt <tamada@[EMAIL PRO  2008-09-08 12:38:29 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-05 22:01:35 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 16:11:28 
Re: Survival Menu
Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-09-09 05:06:29 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-07 15:41:26 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 15:12:20 
Re: Survival Menu
snipe <windowssuks@[EM  2008-09-07 12:39:33 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-08 21:01:00 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 13:54:26 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-09 01:01:28 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-09 09:28:19 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-09 14:54:27 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-10 17:00:14 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-11 01:39:16 
Re: Survival Menu
Ed Huesers <ed@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 20:15:39 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 17:21:41 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-09-11 08:33:56 

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