Re: Shocking New Video: Why McCain Wants to Drill Up Our Tourist

Dr. Brian Leverich wrote:
> On 2008-08-23, Doug McDonald <mcdonald@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Wolf Leverich wrote:
>>
>>> In terms of drilling, there's virtually nothing we can do that
>>> would much affect total world supply, and hence the global price
>>> of oil. 
>> Incorrect. The US still has a very huge oil supply at well
>> below current prices. AT present prices, we have the largest supply 
>> anywhere.
> 
> Nope, correct.  With regards to *drilling*, look at the
> DoE estimates.
> 
> If you disagree, what's your source?
> 
> There are massive oil shale resources in Colorado and
> Wyoming, as I noted below, but that's mining and not
> drilling.

Oil is oil, especially if it's recoverable and market prices - and it is.

Stop the ****ing obfuscation you eco-asswipe.
> 
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> 
>>> The reason you aren't utterly wrong is because we (the US and
>>> Canada) do have enough oil shale and tar reserves that we could
>>> cap the price of oil at the recovery price of shale/tar, if
>>> we're willing to pretty much destroy the southwestern corner of
>>> America to produce oil for international consumption.
>> For domestic consumption.
> 
> You can't separate domestic and international consumption,
> unless you intend to abrogate a whole host of international
> trade agreements.

Not necessarily true.

> Throwing away those agreements is with me -- I don't have much
> use for "free trade" -- but most Republicans would think that
> taking a protectionist stance was not a wise thing.

You're no one to speak for "most Republicans", ****iwit.

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> 
>>> BTW, if you want to blame someone for the short-term run-up
>>> in oil prices, blame Republicans.  What's going on right now,
>>> for the folks extremely short on clues, is that the industry
>>> is profit-taking in a major way while there's no meaningful
>>> oversight or threat of excess profits taxation.
>> The blame is on Democrats for not allowing more production.
> 
> No, we can't produce enough through drilling to break OPEC.

You don't have to.

All that need happen is for excess supply to drive prices down.

> If you can't produce enough to cause the cartel to lose
> discipline, you can't affect pricing at all.  Zilch.

That is a flat ****ing LIE.

EVERY announced new find and production increase serves to drive the 
current price down as the market is ALWAYS forward looking.

STOP YOUR ****ING LYING, ASSWIPE!

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> 
>> The only answer is to elect Republicans.
>>
>> Doug McDonald
> 
> The only answer is to conserve where it makes sense (as has
> been observed, simply inflating our tires has more impact than
> drilling ANWR) 

BULL****!

That presumes that all 4 tires on MOST of the fleet are under-inflated.

Hint - they're not, but your head is.

You ****ing propagandist eco-weeny.

> and ****ft to non-cartelized energy sources.
> We've got huge wind and solar resources available within our
> borders, and that's where we ought to be directing our capital
> streams.

I hate to clue ya, but neither wind nor solar will impact most domestic 
trans****t based oil use, fool.

Coal to liquids however could.


> Re electing Republicans, sure, go vote for a guy who was
> 895th out of 899 in his class at Annapolis

So what?

Neither Bush nor  Kerry were great scholars and each has done quite 
well, quit grasping in desperation, you woethless chicken-****ing son of 
a *****.

> and has nasty enough
> senior moments that at times he can't even recall how many houses
> he owns.  

Perhaps because they are mostly condos and are in his WIFE's ****tfolio, 
fool.


> But based on recent experience, I'd say electing a
> President with distinctly unimpressive intelligence is 

You're a vile piece of ****, drop ****ing dead.