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Re: Survival Menu

by "Jon" <jonmein@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 26, 2008 at 07:58 AM

"Eugene Miya" <eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>
>>But can they repair the damaged infrastructure, the communications
>>systems, refineries, etc...
>
> Can you?

Some of it, perhaps (my specialization).  But not all, not individually.
I'm not planning "survival menus" either, though.

My question for the hunker down in bunker survivalists:
"What problem are you trying to solve?"  Planning to survive the
aftermath of a disaster?  Ok.  Prudent precautions are great.
But how about planning to prevent or avoid a disaster?

> Specialization is for insects.

Or for communities of humans.

> But I think that Long and Heinlein might be wrong.
> Specialization might not be just for insects.  It might be a necessary
> consequence for the level of technology we have.

Cooperation.  Social contexts.  Even with simpler
technologies, specialization can be an advantage.

> What's a polder?
> (w/o looking it up).
> Zees and dikes I know and would have to deduce that a polder is the
> recovered land.  But that's possibly a limited view.

Yes.  Lowest point I saw on the GPS during our bike tour
was -18ft, highest point only 302ft.  We stayed north and east.
NL mountains are in the south.

> Holland is flat.

I took a 360 degree panorama in the De Hoge Veluwe.
Open grasslands there reminded me of Texas panhandle.

> 1953: Everest ascended.

1953, major NL flood.  Early commissions cleared authorities
of culpability for the dike failures.  More recent investigative
books suggest complacency had left some infrastructure
without maintenance.

>>[HHGG]
> So Long and Thanks for All the Fish. Vol. 4 of his Trilogy.

I wish Adams had finished volume 6 of the trilogy...  RIP

>>The first books were radio series first.
>>And which earth?
>
> A fictional version of our Earth.

A fiction in several serial forms...

All the HHGG references I see to the B-ark Golgafinchans
say they did survive as human ancestors.  The basis for the
earth reappearing in voulme 4 after it's destruction in volume
1 is the plural nature of the zone.  Fenchurch has troubling
"memory" of the destruction event, and Arthur, of course
lived through it.  It took The Book, Mark II to accomplish
the permanent destruction of all the plural Earths.

> You have to know its limits.

Imagination, they say, knows no limits.

Jon
 




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Survival Menu
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-17 08:32:00 
Re: Survival Menu
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-08-17 08:53:18 
Re: Survival Menu
Galen Hekhuis <ghekhui  2008-08-17 12:23:38 
Re: Survival Menu
Mike Romain <romainm@[  2008-08-17 15:24:40 
Re: Survival Menu
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-08-17 13:09:57 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-18 09:54:30 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-19 08:35:00 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-19 17:24:32 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-20 08:09:32 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-20 10:27:40 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-21 07:29:49 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 11:42:49 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-22 07:32:39 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-22 10:23:56 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-26 07:58:49 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-26 16:28:33 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-27 07:20:29 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 16:33:14 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-28 14:42:40 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-28 17:32:04 
Re: Survival Menu
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-29 06:55:38 
Re: Survival Menu
Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-08-30 21:41:41 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-03 14:06:51 
Re: Survival Menu
Puppet_Sock <puppet_so  2008-09-08 07:56:01 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-28 08:03:54 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-28 16:53:57 
Re: Survival Menu
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-25 10:47:03 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-25 10:58:31 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-27 09:06:28 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
"Jon" <jonme  2008-08-27 12:05:01 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 16:53:39 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-27 21:26:08 
Re: Survival Menu (the menu is revolting)
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-28 16:46:55 
Re: Survival Menu
pmh <pmhilton@[EMAIL P  2008-08-22 19:38:37 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-25 11:08:02 
Re: Survival Menu
Puppet_Sock <puppet_so  2008-08-21 07:44:44 
Re: Survival Menu
Puppet_Sock <puppet_so  2008-08-19 07:58:18 
Re: Survival Menu
"runcyclexcski@[EMAI  2008-08-20 17:00:58 
Re: Survival Menu
"maguahiker@[EMAIL P  2008-08-21 02:58:00 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-21 14:28:43 
Re: Survival Menu
"Stormin Mormon"  2008-08-25 10:42:29 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-27 15:10:23 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-08-27 16:49:56 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-08-29 08:02:09 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-04 00:41:40 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 13:35:06 
Re: Survival Menu
Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-09-09 05:05:09 
Re: Survival Menu
mkt <tamada@[EMAIL PRO  2008-09-08 12:38:29 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-05 22:01:35 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-05 16:11:28 
Re: Survival Menu
Bruce in alaska <fast@  2008-09-09 05:06:29 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-07 15:41:26 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 15:12:20 
Re: Survival Menu
snipe <windowssuks@[EM  2008-09-07 12:39:33 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-08 21:01:00 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-08 13:54:26 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-09 01:01:28 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-09 09:28:19 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-09 14:54:27 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-10 17:00:14 
Re: Survival Menu
Chris Townsend <Chris@  2008-09-11 01:39:16 
Re: Survival Menu
Ed Huesers <ed@[EMAIL   2008-09-18 20:15:39 
Re: Survival Menu
eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-09-19 17:21:41 
Re: Survival Menu
Martin Thornquist <mar  2008-09-11 08:33:56 

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