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>, Eugene Miya <eugene@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>In article <RrYRtED8RYxIFwya@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Chris Townsend <Chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>In message
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>>Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>On Aug 30, 5:41 pm, Bruce in alaska <f...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> I always figured that if you were out, farther than two days of
steady
>>>> Hiking, from the nearest Road, in any direction, that connected to
>>>> somewheres else, that you would be in the "BackCountry"
>>>
>>>At the rate I walk some days, by that defintion,
>>>the back row of seats on the bus is "BackCountry."
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>>It's like a sign I've seen in the Pyrenees saying that camping is only
>>allowed an hour or more walking distance from the road.
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>Presumably on a trail.
At the start of a trail, yes.
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>>How far is an hour's walk?
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>Naismith's rule with a day pack uses 3 MPH. So start with 3 miles as a
>strawman. This is about the minimium overnight distance that places
>like Yosemite rangers issue wilderness permits away from a road (trail
>or no trail).
Good old Naismith and his Rule! 3 mph and half an hour for every 1,000
feet of ascent. He developed it in the Scottish Highlands in the 1890s.
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>Of course if Gross were still here, he would argue that he walks 5 MPH
>(jogs maybe, but Bob doesn't walk 5 MPH, he would not be able to
>verbally impress people that way).
I once measured my pace by mileposts at 4mph. On the flat and on
pavement. I couldn't do that on a trail or with ascents. Naismith's Rule
works for me as long as the terrain isn't too rough.
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>Junction marking signs in the Alps I've noticed use time (hrs and
>fractions or min) to note summer hiking distances. Similarly a local
>newspaper travel section had a letter to the editor complaint that a
>particular trail in Yosemite was rated "too hard". Even American travel
>writers note that elderly Europeans in many cases walk impressive
>distances and elevation gains, but that's largely because they have been
>recreating that way their entire life times.
>
I dislike route descriptions that give times rather than distances and
ascents/descents. Guidebook times are often conservative.
--
Chris Townsend
http://www.auchnarrow.demon.co.uk
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