John Doe wrote:
> Day Brown <daybrown daybrown.org> wrote:
>
>> The only immigrants we need are the H-1b, who have been ranted
>> against. But every engineer who comes here creates 5 more jobs of
>> ordinary folks- secretaries, janitors, ****pping clerks, lab techs.
>
> Every engineer educated and trained here produces much more than
> that.
>
>> Instead, we kept them out, so they formed startups in Bangalore or
>> wherever, creating the jobs there, and the competition for
>> American innovation.
>
> That's the same old often repeated hogwash that exists only in a
> vacuum. Non-democracies don't give a damn about innovation, all they
> want is access to our markets. Access to our consumers so they can
> rake in the money, and access to our jobs so they can send the money
> home. If our leaders of democracies band together and trade amongst
> ourselves, other countries will follow our lead or eat dirt. In a
> time not so long ago, we proved that already. Now too many of our
> leaders are grasping at the New World Order, they are power-hungry
> and have forgotten about leading by example.
>
>> But we are where we are, and as middle class incomes decline,
>
> Thanks in part to giving high-tech jobs to H-1B visa holders instead
> of educating and hiring our own or at least others from civilized
> democratic countries.
You dont need democracy. Any H-1b or similarly trained professional can
vote with an airline ticket. Singa****e is a family business, and it is
doing damn well in part because it does not waste social energy on
religious demagogues or political idealists.
The religious fundamentalism of the American government drives those
with creative minds to look for systems that are less hindered with
bullschitt, and who dont want their kids wasting time learning about
Creationism.
We've seen this before, in the world's first great transnational free
market, the Silk Road. Most of its cities, most of the time, operated
beyond the hegemony of the Chinese, Roman, Persian, & Byzantine empires.
Competent men could, and did, vote with their feet, and the governments
of these cities knew it.
The pre-eminent city, Kucha, had the shrines for 22 religions, and did a
thriving business translating sacred texts and other do***ents among
Chinese and Aryan languages. The cultural freedom promoted innovation,
and the people there got filthy rich. They ex****ted astrologers,
magicians, mathemeticians and even military officers to China, and
im****ted Chinese merchants and scholars.
It was the diversity of the well educated professionals, and not the
camel drivers that stimulated their economy.
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