Day Brown <daybrown daybrown.org> wrote:
> John Doe wrote:
>> Day Brown <daybrown daybrown.org> wrote:
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>>> The only immigrants we need are the H-1b, who have been ranted
>>> against. But every engineer who comes here creates 5 more jobs
>>> of ordinary folks- secretaries, janitors, ****pping clerks, lab
>>> techs.
>>
>> Every engineer educated and trained here produces much more than
>> that.
>>
>>> Instead, we kept them out, so they formed startups in Bangalore
>>> or wherever, creating the jobs there, and the competition for
>>> American innovation.
>>
>> That's the same old often repeated hogwash that exists only in a
>> vacuum. Non-democracies don't give a damn about innovation, all
>> they want is access to our markets. Access to our consumers so
>> they can rake in the money, and access to our jobs so they can
>> send the money home. If our leaders of democracies band together
>> and trade amongst ourselves, other countries will follow our lead
>> or eat dirt. In a time not so long ago, we proved that already.
>> Now too many of our leaders are grasping at the New World Order,
>> they are power-hungry and have forgotten about leading by
>> example.
>>
>>> But we are where we are, and as middle class incomes decline,
>>
>> Thanks in part to giving high-tech jobs to H-1B visa holders
>> instead of educating and hiring our own or at least others from
>> civilized democratic countries.
> You dont need democracy.
Speak for yourself.
> Any H-1b or similarly trained professional can vote with an
> airline ticket.
And go back to their filthy communist country where they will be
paid peanuts for doing exactly as their government dictates.
> Singa****e is a family business,
I get it... you're a troll with a big ego who thinks he's going to
coin phrases here on USENET. Either that, or when you see a message
on the Internet "Fong Wong Due, based in Singa****e, is a family
business" you do not pay close enough attention to the sentence
structure.
> and it is doing damn well in part because it does not waste social
> energy on religious demagogues or political idealists.
That's the first time I've heard anyone use religion in an argument
for H-1B visas. So your argument for H-1B visas (and probably 98% of
your other arguments) is out of your own anti-religious zealotry.
> It was the diversity of the well educated professionals, and not
> the camel drivers that stimulated their economy.
Bull****.
It's access to thriving democratic markets that stimulate their
economy.
The H-1B visa proponent screams "Surrender our jobs to them or they
will take them from us!" They obviously lack hindsight.
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