Re: list (CSAA) of must see animals.

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Ed Huesers  <ed@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> mailing ****rt, et al.
>    Looking forward to it.

It went out last week.

>> Hey I got the title honorary glaciologist (professional).  That's just
>> the qualitative stuff.
>
>    What book would be good for me?

Hmmmm.
In general?
Maybe Living Ice by Bob Sharp.  That's fun.  It's a little weak on ice
sheets but its well rounded.
You probably don't want Patterson 3rd ed. as it's already obsolete and
requires a lot of math.  I brought back 3 more, but those are all Alaska
oriented.

>> Spring is not a great time of year to study mass balance.
>
>    Well, then it probably isn't a moat because it's the top layer of 
>snow that melts because it is on the warm ground and rock at the top. 
>What I thought was a moat melts down to where it is nearly flat stepping 
>on the glacier from above.

Snow != ice.

>> Movement is also sometime complicated.
>
>    Yeah, It's not like I'm going to sit there and watch it move. I 
>doubt they would like me sticking a marker in.

Well as a matter of fact, you could.

We did that on St Helens.  You just need instruments and a little time.
Plugging readings into an HP-67 back some decades ago, it was neat to
watch that the poles we placed moved 200 mm (20 cm or 8 inch) over a 3
day period.  That's just linear.  We had to also deal with wave height.

>> explosives 
>
>    Sounds like they had all the fun.
>    My buds dad said they used to fish with gallon jugs with a little 
>bit of carbide dust in them. Never played with it myself.
>    Another bud tried charcoal and saltpeter with no luck.

Monty Python joke on how the boys relaxed.  Boom!  Taking in a little
fi****ng....

>> Baker used to toss those.  Remember him?
>
>    Don't think so.

R.s.announce's moderator.  Ex-Squaw patrolman.

>>>   Mostly, stomp hard and let the snow sinter a few seconds before 
>>>stepping up.
>
>    I was snowshoeing on that trips. The 10 inches of 
           ^^^^^^^^^^^!
>soft was deep enough to give a mostly flat step when stomped hard on 
>those few hazardous steps.

Oh, hard to side step.

>> I saw the flat.
>
>    Not much of a slant downhill so it took more work to dig the door 
>out but it all works.
>
>> I saw last years' AAJ and people like to pitch tents on platforms
>> chopped out of knife-edged ice ridges with 1,000s of feet of air on
each
>> side.  Always have 1 corner hanging in space.
>
>    Depending on no microbursts.
>    Doublely living on the edge.

No really strong winds.

>> If you have enough snow,  Sure.
>> You must have spacing between the boulders.
>
>    Stay in the center of the snowfields, exit carefully.

Only as a generalization.

> Stay on bare rock/tundra mix when not sure of the snowfield.

Sometimes a safer bet.

>>>   Yes, I've learnt how some snow has holes and other snow doesn't. 
>    We used to fall through in the early days. Experience helps

8^)

>>>   Pictures looked to be mostly bare small skree with very little 
>>>grass/tundra. Slippery slopes.
>> Sandy.  Lapilli.  Some broken lava flows.
>    Saw some waterfalls on the edge of some broken lava flows.
>
>>>   I did see some ice sheets but was looking more at the mountains.
>> 3 good sized ones.
>> They have mountains buried in them.
>> Future cirques.
>
>    I'd like to travel to someplace where the freshly polished rock is 
>showing. Eradics would be pretty unstable.

Erratics.  They can be stable.  How fresh?  RMNP should have some.
Depends on the bed rock.  Yosemite has a fair amount.  The Alps and a
lot of other places have G polish.

>> Time for new cars on my side and servicing.
>    Just serviced mine, new struts... ouch.

I just got a used Forerunner.  I have to go collect it and order car #2.

>>>   This summer I took the time to figure out a way down the steep side 
>>>of a glacial knob, no ropes required in dry conditions. I can now go 
>>>over one knob and up and over the next one. Did 10 knobs in a row a 
>>>couple weeks ago. 3,100 ft. of gain and about 8 miles round trip. Was
fun.
>> RMNP?
>
>    Yes, easy to get to and getting to know the area real good. Perhaps 
>to good but I'm getting a deeper understanding and waiting to see what 
>comes of it.

I gave Murray 2 of my geo books.  What does he do?  Spend more time with
botanists.

>>>>When did you guys kill off your last grizzlies?
>>>   Just did a search and Ed Wiseman killed one in 1979.
>> 79?  That late?
>
>    By reading web pages, sounds like we might still have some...

I think those people are dreaming.  In the lower 48 its Yellowstone and
Glacier NPs.  Yeah like we have real wolverine in CA.

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