On Dec 1, 7:26=A0pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:15:37 -0700, wis...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:12:58 -0800, Mike Vandeman
> ><mjva...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>On Sat, 29 Nov 2008 09:19:06 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
> >><Siskuwiha...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >>>http://www.independent.com/news/2007/may/24/defensive-logic/
>
> >>>Defensive Logic
> >>>By Henry Delgado
>
> >>>Thursday, May 24, 2007
>
> >>>While I have no doubt that Mike Vandeman, PhD, is a well-educated and
> >>>reasonable man, I submit that the information he has gleaned from his
> >>>associates regarding firearms is woefully inadequate [ "Close
> >>>Reading," May 10]. Dr. Vandeman starts out by labeling it
> >>>=93preposterous=94 to say that guns are used defensively 2.5 million
t=
imes
> >>>a year. I respectfully refer Dr. Vandeman to a 1993 national survey
> >>>re****t by Gary Kleck, Florida State University criminology professor.
> >>>Using a survey sample of 4,977 respondents (the usual survey sample
is
> >>>in the 600 to 1,600 range), Professor Kleck determined that guns are
> >>>used an average of 2.5 million times a year to prevent or defend
> >>>against a crime. In 1994, Bill Clinton=92s Department of Justice
> >>>sponsored a survey titled "Guns in America: National Survey on
Private
> >>>Owner****p and Use of Firearms." They used a smaller sample size than
> >>>Kleck, and estimated 1.5 million defensive uses of firearms annually.
>
> >>>It is unfortunate Dr. Vandeman doesn=92t know any gun owners.
Contrary
> >>>to his assertion that a =93tiny minority of the population own guns,=
=94
> >>>here are the facts for his perusal: There are approximately
> >>>300,000,000 people in the U.S. There are approximately 65,000,000 gun
> >>>owners in the U.S. That=92s about 22 percent of the population.
>
> >>That only proves that 22% of the population are idiots.
>
> >> There
> >>>are 200 million firearms (65 million-70 million handguns). Firearms
> >>>are used for protection by 11 percent of firearms owners (13 percent
> >>>of handgun owners). Criminal yearly misuse of firearms is less than
> >>>0.2 percent (and less than 0.4 percent for handguns).
>
> >>>I=92m confident that Dr. Vandeman will be enlightened by these
figures=
..
> >>>I have personally been a participant in defusing a possible crime
> >>>because we were armed=97but that=92s another story.=97Henry Delgado
>
> >Mike, I agree with so much you advocate including restrictions on ATV
> >and biking where damage is a problem. Same for "human free" wildlife
> >areas. But the comments on guns
> >are way off. How about joining in the work to stabilize population via
> >strict immigration controls?
>
> Immigration has nothing to do with world population levels. But thanks
> for reminding me to tell President Obama to tear down the U.S./Mexico
> wall.
Even a 4 year old child knows that he was talking about the population
levels in the US, DUH!
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